My brother gave me a full set of Def Tech speakers back in 2009. I now drive these with a Outlaw 7125 amp for the L and R channels, max 125 watts at 8 ohms. Previously I had a decent Denon 5.1 receiver and that was fine. (Maybe 90'ish watts at 8 ohms. My musical taste is jazz and classical, and of-course we watch movies from DVD and Blue Ray. Star Trek the Motionless Picture sounds incredible, reminds me of the 70 mm Dolby CP 200 soundtrack back in '79 at the UA 150 theater in downtown Seattle.
Best speakers I ever had during a 50+ year obsession with decent and affordable audio. Nice tonal balance and they play as loud as I need, before my 'ears bleed.' I do not plan to ever replace these. My brother gave me a full set of Def Tech speakers back in 2009. I now drive these with a Outlaw 7125 amp for the L and R channels, max 125 watts at 8 ohms.
Previously I had a decent Denon 5.1 receiver and that was fine. (Maybe 90'ish watts at 8 ohms.
My musical taste is jazz and classical, and of-course we watch movies from DVD and Blue Ray. Star Trek the Motionless Picture sounds incredible, reminds me of the 70 mm Dolby CP 200 soundtrack back in '79 at the UA 150 theater in downtown Seattle. Best speakers I ever had during a 50+ year obsession with decent and affordable audio. Nice tonal balance and they play as loud as I need, before my 'ears bleed.' I do not plan to ever replace these. Definitive Technology BP2000 are power craving. These are not the speakers ever to be run by any high-street or high end 100watt amps.
They begin to sing and come to life when to the least bear minimum of solid 200watt rms (no best buy or common high street stuff) is fed into them and played at above 80 decibels. U will be in the heaven of clean crisp and distortionless sound.
I have had klipsch chorus II and they were amazing too. I have had the experience with Klipschorns as well.
Klipsch heritage series is amazing and beautiful and is capable of making the music sing even at lower decibels of sound with considerable 100watt rms solid state amps. But chorus IIs or klipschorn might sound to some harsh and forward sounding with improper amplification but still they are amazing nevertheless. Whereas underpowered amplification will make BP2000s sound flat, lifeless and dull. I would not compare BP2000s to B&W coz I don't have any experience of B&Ws with 15' or dual 10' woofers. I have had in my possession a B&W pair with dual 8' woofers each.
They sounded ethereal but still I would not compare them with BP2000s coz no matter how nice & great my B&Ws sounded they lacked in thrust and presence. I didn't mention the B&W model on purpose so as to avoid any misleading cues. BP2000 for their price were excellent with both music and movies provided if one could afford to feed them with minimum 200watt rms quality amps or above. Definitive Technology BP2000 build quality is stiff, sturdy and heavy. Definitive Technology BP2000 are power craving.
These are not the speakers ever to be run by any high-street or high end 100watt amps. They begin to sing and come to life when to the least bear minimum of solid 200watt rms (no best buy or common high street stuff) is fed into them and played at above 80 decibels. U will be in the heaven of clean crisp and distortionless sound. I have had klipsch chorus II and they were amazing too. I have had the experience with Klipschorns as well. Klipsch heritage series is amazing and beautiful and is capable of making the music sing even at lower decibels of sound with considerable 100watt rms solid state amps.
But chorus IIs or klipschorn might sound to some harsh and forward sounding with improper amplification but still they are amazing nevertheless. Whereas underpowered amplification will make BP2000s sound flat, lifeless and dull. I would not compare BP2000s to B&W coz I don't have any experience of B&Ws with 15' or dual 10' woofers. I have had in my possession a B&W pair with dual 8' woofers each.
They sounded ethereal but still I would not compare them with BP2000s coz no matter how nice & great my B&Ws sounded they lacked in thrust and presence. I didn't mention the B&W model on purpose so as to avoid any misleading cues. BP2000 for their price were excellent with both music and movies provided if one could afford to feed them with minimum 200watt rms quality amps or above. Definitive Technology BP2000 build quality is stiff, sturdy and heavy.
Definitve, now more than ever, is the red-headed step-child of this industry. Consistently producing products that are lauded by critics and enthusiasts alike, and now being sold by the likes of (boo, hiss) best buy, it's easy to see why the snobbish, predictable, 'phile' crowd denounce their very existence and scoff at the idea that anyone with any sense would consider such a purchase for a serious music rig, Of course reality dictates a different take. The BP 2000, now 15+ years old, still puts most comparably (and many significantly higher) priced loudpseakers to shame. If you can lose or even consider the losing the pin-point imaging delivered from typical front-radiating designs, you will enjoy other sonic virtues in spades. They'll play oppressively loud for the SPL-heads, they'll deliver the crucial male (and female) midrange and salient highs that the more crtical listeners are looking for, and finally, they'll bring all of the dynamic punch and power everyone is looking for in a top-flight HT.
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Crucially, if you truly believe in the mantra that there's 'great music speakers and great home theater speakers but not both', clearly you have never heard a speaker on par with the 2000's (or DT's 7000's) and/or are simply undivorceable from the idea that great sound reproduction MUST contain razor-sharp imagaing. Of course real sound contains nothing of the sort (razor-sharp imaging) and you won't find the 2000's doin' it either. You can find these for $1000 a pair and even less in some cases, which is an outright steal in my book. The cast aluminum baskets, butyl surrounds, and homopolymer drivers are built for the long haul. I had to re-epoxy my sub-surrounds after 15 years, but what do you want? It took 20 minutes total and they are now like-new. No wood-exposed cabinets to get chipped/marred either.socks are easily re-ordered (and replaced) to bring up to like-new shape- ditto for the gloss caps Granted, they are hardly rectangular picassos, but that's not why I bought them.
Rarely does a product come along that I can recommend with virtually zero reservation. This is one of those occasions. If you care about music and how it SOUNDS, and are lucky enough to find a pair that have been cared for, I will guarantee you that you won't walk away from these considering what they can be had for. A testament to the fact that the old really can compete with the new within this corridor of the hobby. Definitve, now more than ever, is the red-headed step-child of this industry. Consistently producing products that are lauded by critics and enthusiasts alike, and now being sold by the likes of (boo, hiss) best buy, it's easy to see why the snobbish, predictable, 'phile' crowd denounce their very existence and scoff at the idea that anyone with any sense would consider such a purchase for a serious music rig, Of course reality dictates a different take.
The BP 2000, now 15+ years old, still puts most comparably (and many significantly higher) priced loudpseakers to shame. If you can lose or even consider the losing the pin-point imaging delivered from typical front-radiating designs, you will enjoy other sonic virtues in spades. They'll play oppressively loud for the SPL-heads, they'll deliver the crucial male (and female) midrange and salient highs that the more crtical listeners are looking for, and finally, they'll bring all of the dynamic punch and power everyone is looking for in a top-flight HT. Crucially, if you truly believe in the mantra that there's 'great music speakers and great home theater speakers but not both', clearly you have never heard a speaker on par with the 2000's (or DT's 7000's) and/or are simply undivorceable from the idea that great sound reproduction MUST contain razor-sharp imagaing. Of course real sound contains nothing of the sort (razor-sharp imaging) and you won't find the 2000's doin' it either. You can find these for $1000 a pair and even less in some cases, which is an outright steal in my book. The cast aluminum baskets, butyl surrounds, and homopolymer drivers are built for the long haul.
I had to re-epoxy my sub-surrounds after 15 years, but what do you want? It took 20 minutes total and they are now like-new.
No wood-exposed cabinets to get chipped/marred either.socks are easily re-ordered (and replaced) to bring up to like-new shape- ditto for the gloss caps Granted, they are hardly rectangular picassos, but that's not why I bought them. Rarely does a product come along that I can recommend with virtually zero reservation. This is one of those occasions. If you care about music and how it SOUNDS, and are lucky enough to find a pair that have been cared for, I will guarantee you that you won't walk away from these considering what they can be had for. A testament to the fact that the old really can compete with the new within this corridor of the hobby. I was so afraid to get these speakers at $500 a pair in mint form from a nice 72 year old man with All the trash spoked about these speakers.The way i looked at it is there is no way the can sound that bad.I am so Glad i bought them. I have been fighting a bass problem in my theater area,no bass in the sweet spot.
If you wan bass,go in the kitchen.I tried,Klipsch Chourus II, Lascala,Polk Monitor 10,Vintage JBL l220's, all sound nice in a different room,THESE Speakers DId it for me, i am done with this room.BAss is excellent and tight,Bids are smooth the tweets could be a little brighter 'for me' but the nices Theater sound i can find for the cash.ALL you Fools Buying these speakers and talking trash about them,Did you listed to them before you bought them???who buys a car without a test drive!!!!!! GO buy your speakers from the Guys in the white van!!!!!!! I was so afraid to get these speakers at $500 a pair in mint form from a nice 72 year old man with All the trash spoked about these speakers.The way i looked at it is there is no way the can sound that bad.I am so Glad i bought them. I have been fighting a bass problem in my theater area,no bass in the sweet spot.
If you wan bass,go in the kitchen.I tried,Klipsch Chourus II, Lascala,Polk Monitor 10,Vintage JBL l220's, all sound nice in a different room,THESE Speakers DId it for me, i am done with this room.BAss is excellent and tight,Bids are smooth the tweets could be a little brighter 'for me' but the nices Theater sound i can find for the cash.ALL you Fools Buying these speakers and talking trash about them,Did you listed to them before you bought them???who buys a car without a test drive!!!!!! GO buy your speakers from the Guys in the white van!!!!!!! I have lived now with these speakers for about a year, and truly feel you can't find a more versatile speaker. I run the BP2000's with an adcom 5800 power amp and the sound even on poorly recorded material is so smooth and clean. Please note that I felt this way when driving the speakers with my Yamaha reciever before the addition of my amp. After given proper time to setting the level and EQ controls these just can't be beat (this includes auditioning several more expensive brands).
I did notice an improvement using the line-level sub input on the back of the speaker, as opposed to just connecting them with one pair of cables. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED for individuals with broad musical tastes.
Electrostatic lovers, please audition these with your favorite material, allow time to experiment, and I promise you will be blown away. I have lived now with these speakers for about a year, and truly feel you can't find a more versatile speaker. I run the BP2000's with an adcom 5800 power amp and the sound even on poorly recorded material is so smooth and clean. Please note that I felt this way when driving the speakers with my Yamaha reciever before the addition of my amp. After given proper time to setting the level and EQ controls these just can't be beat (this includes auditioning several more expensive brands). I did notice an improvement using the line-level sub input on the back of the speaker, as opposed to just connecting them with one pair of cables. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED for individuals with broad musical tastes.
Electrostatic lovers, please audition these with your favorite material, allow time to experiment, and I promise you will be blown away. I auditioned these speakers against Martin Logans, PSB, B&W, M&K, Legacy, Klipsh, etc.
Most of my auditioning was done with variety of music, more concentrated on JAZZ. BP2000 consistently outperformed most of the speakers on the above list. For certain music, Leagacy and B&W's sounded better, but the price was about 5K to 8K more. Martin Logan's sounded better on some horn's, but they were very difficult at adjust around low frequencies. For home theater DP's peroformance was outstanding. For overall sound quality and performance hats off to Def Tech's. Keep up the good work.
I auditioned these speakers against Martin Logans, PSB, B&W, M&K, Legacy, Klipsh, etc. Most of my auditioning was done with variety of music, more concentrated on JAZZ.
BP2000 consistently outperformed most of the speakers on the above list. For certain music, Leagacy and B&W's sounded better, but the price was about 5K to 8K more. Martin Logan's sounded better on some horn's, but they were very difficult at adjust around low frequencies. For home theater DP's peroformance was outstanding.
For overall sound quality and performance hats off to Def Tech's. Keep up the good work. I expected a lot from these.with the large midrange piston area, the self powered woofer, the thick cabinets.What I heard was boomy, thin, unnatural sound that seemed like it was tailored to the masses. Treble clarity was non-existent. Vocals were muffled. Midrange was definitely dropped to favor an overly warm and boomy sound. It didn't take me long to bypass these.
For a little more, the Legacy Focus (what I ended up with) is so much better. If you want boom.do yourself a favor and buy a self powered sub for 1/4 the price. I expected a lot from these.with the large midrange piston area, the self powered woofer, the thick cabinets.What I heard was boomy, thin, unnatural sound that seemed like it was tailored to the masses. Treble clarity was non-existent.
Vocals were muffled. Midrange was definitely dropped to favor an overly warm and boomy sound. It didn't take me long to bypass these. For a little more, the Legacy Focus (what I ended up with) is so much better.
If you want boom.do yourself a favor and buy a self powered sub for 1/4 the price.
Subwoofer frequency range: 20 - 200 Subwoofer RMS power: 650 Subwoofer driver diameter: 190.5 mm Subwoofer driver diameter (imperial): 7.5 2011-05-04 12-06-08 281RPM0000-00-00 12-06-08 301M0000-00-00 12-06-08 311kHz0000-00-00 12-06-08 321°0000-00-00 12-06-08 331x Line inputs (RCA): 1 Colour of product: Black Subwoofer width: 260.4 mm Subwoofer depth: 276.2 mm Subwoofer height: 273 mm Subwoofer type: Active subwoofer.
S PECIAL T EST R EPORT ambiguous, since there is an unavoidable interaction with the room boundaries. Our composite response curve for the BP 2000, combining the close-miked sub- woofer response and the room response, had a 6-dB peak-to-peak variation between 100 and 200 Hz, which would certainly be different (but probably pre- sent to some degree) in any other room. The BP 2000’s horizontal dispersion was typical of speakers with drivers of similar size.
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The output plots on-axis and 45 degrees off-axis remained close up to about 10 kHz, and then the curves diverged by about 5 dB at 13 kHz and 15 dB at 20 kHz. The system’s impedance ranged from 4 ohms between 3 and 20 kHz to 16 ohms at 20 kHz. There were peaks of 14 ohms at 100 Hz and 10 ohms at 1.4 kHz. The speaker’s specifications state only that its impedance is compatible with amplifiers designed to drive 4- to 8-ohm loads, which is consistent with our measure- ments.
There was no clear indication of the crossover frequency between the tweeters and midrange drivers in any- thing we measured or heard, which is actually as it should be. The preliminary specifications for the BP 2000 include a 90-dB sensitivity rat- ing, a bandwidth of 15 Hz to 30 kHz (!), and a recommendation for use with main system amplifiers rated between 30 and 300 watts per channel (which encompass- es virtually every high-fidelity amplifier on the market). We measured the system sensitivity at 1 meter with a 2.83-volt input of noise (equivalent to 1 watt into 8 ohms) as 92 he Definitive Technology BP 2000 is the first speaker I have been able to audition in my own familiar surroundings that has given me that special thrill that usually costs ten or more times its price to obtain. When I heard it demonstrated at the 1995 Winter Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in Las Vegas, I knew it was something special, and the more I listen to it now the more that feeling is confirmed. For one thing, driven by even a mod- estly powered amplifier, it can play loud- er than I can imagine anyone would nor- mally want to listen, yet without audible distortion. This speaker is just loafing along at any level one would reasonably use in a home. The bipole configuration generates a pleasingly natural stereo stage, and the subwoofers provide a foun- dation that you can feel as much as hear.
Frankly, if circumstances allowed, I would choose these speakers for myself. Alas, space and decor considerations make that impractical. And I hate to pass up a bargain like this one! Consider what you gettwo first-rate bipolar speakers, two 15-inch subwoofers, and two 300- watt amplifiers, all packaged in two attractively styled columns that occupy one square foot each of floor space. I doubt that you can get a better-sound- ing system for less than several times the price of the BP 2000. And one more thing: You don’t need exotic equipment to get high-caliber sound from a pair of BP 2000’s.
The speaker was demonstrat- ed at CES with very high-end cables and amplifiers. I used a 75-watt receiver and 14-gauge Radio Shack speaker wire, and I doubt that an additional $20,000 spent on that end of the system would have made any appreciable improvement. The BP 2000 is, price notwithstanding, a remarkable value. DB sound-pressure level (SPL), slightly higher than rated. That suggests (and we verified) that the BP 2000 can be driven to lease-breaking levels by just about any receiver or amplifier, with a wide margin of reserve power. The main-system dri- vers had no difficulty handling all the power our test amplifier could muster in single-cycle tone bursts—860 watts at 1 kHz into the woofers and 1,280 watts at 10 kHz into the tweeters. We measured the subwoofer distortion with a steady-state 2.25-volt input to the system (equivalent to a 90-dB SPL system output).
The distortion (largely third-harmonic) was, to our surprise, not spectacularly low, ranging from 6 percent at 30 Hz to about 2 percent at 100 Hz and higher. It climbed steeply at lower frequencies, to about 18 percent at 20 Hz. That is not significantly different from what we have measured from some good conventional speakers that are smaller and less expensive than the BP 2000. On the other hand, the BP 2000 can be dri- ven to truly room-shaking levels in the low bass without much audible evidence of subwoofer (or any other) distortion. We measured average room levels (with musical program material) of close to 105 dB in some of our listening tests. As with any speaker, the ultimate proof of performance is in the listening. Over the years I have heard a few (very few!) speakers, usually at industry shows, that overwhelmed me and were clearly supe- rior to almost anything else I had heard prior to that time.
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Without exception, those speakers were far more expensive (by a factor of many times), and usually much larger, than the BP 2000. I never had the opportunity to live with those speakers and listen to them at length with material of my own choosing, and the specific program material plays an enor- mous role in one’s listening impressions. 11433 Cronridge Dr., Owings Mills, MD 21117 (410) 363-7148 “The BP 2000 isa remarkable value.” “The BP 2000 can be driven to truly room-shaking levels.” “I doubt that you can get a better-sounding system for less than several times the price of the BP 2000.” “The main-system drivers had no difficulty handling all the power our test amplifier could muster.” T.